tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post7330521123014606095..comments2024-03-28T10:25:15.438+03:00Comments on Pakistan Geotagging: Partition Of Punjab in 1947Tariq Amirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-63543908366589896242023-09-13T16:32:59.480+03:002023-09-13T16:32:59.480+03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Homo sapienshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18321485361490100678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-28641194104807440832023-09-13T16:28:41.741+03:002023-09-13T16:28:41.741+03:00they are really complicated because these also hav...they are really complicated because these also have little village in middle or everwhere so these map so complicatedHomo sapienshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18321485361490100678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-48403882833726405902023-09-13T16:15:57.595+03:002023-09-13T16:15:57.595+03:00And respected admin we seen some other facts then ...And respected admin we seen some other facts then Muslim also got more <br /><br />The book written by Dr ishtique PHD and professor from Sweden partition of Punjab which he explained Red clif was in favor to pakistan<br />Dr ishtique is a political scientist and been very famous lately and no Pakistani historian has challenged him on his books about Jinnah partition Pakistan Garrison State specifically his this Red clif issueHomo sapienshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18321485361490100678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-9839731361180674692023-09-13T16:07:14.220+03:002023-09-13T16:07:14.220+03:00And admin sir if we use some other term & fact...And admin sir if we use some other term & factor use for partion compirision then muslim pakistan also get something moreHomo sapienshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18321485361490100678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-60767971994209671322023-09-13T16:04:12.496+03:002023-09-13T16:04:12.496+03:00And maharaja ranjeet singh empire map maybe also n...And maharaja ranjeet singh empire map maybe also not fully correct<br />i think quatta side dera gazi khan tribal area not included maybe its added in 1901<br />in east north its shyunk river according to John Arrowsmith map collectionHomo sapienshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18321485361490100678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-25120146918432286872023-09-13T15:56:47.884+03:002023-09-13T15:56:47.884+03:00Mr respected admin Your Sikh Population have many ...Mr respected admin Your Sikh Population have many Mistake i Noticed 4 <br />Gurdaspur, Batala, Malerkotla have 2nd sikh population you showed 3rd<br />Kharar tehsil of Ambala Have 1st population but again you showed 3rd<br />and kapurthala is princly state so boundray commission can nothing did with thatHomo sapienshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18321485361490100678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-73997214269153707642022-10-28T19:49:08.626+03:002022-10-28T19:49:08.626+03:00We will unite in future,when everyone become educa...We will unite in future,when everyone become educated.when we stop fighting on basis of religion,and start thinking about our culture,our tribe,our language,<br />Love from charda Panjab.MPS GILLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13895306820904409491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-33623405791845737922022-04-27T12:30:28.142+03:002022-04-27T12:30:28.142+03:00Yes sir, I agree with you. We all should learn fro...Yes sir, I agree with you. We all should learn from history, so that we do not repeat the past mistakes. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-52355583962498003142022-03-30T10:03:08.427+03:002022-03-30T10:03:08.427+03:00Great work Tariq. Past is past but who forget the ...Great work Tariq. Past is past but who forget the past can't mend their wrong ways. It is a must to every indian to know the past of this great country and take the right lesson from it. Md Sohail Shamshirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04333518671377241041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-46238419620653206992022-03-02T06:51:40.098+03:002022-03-02T06:51:40.098+03:00We assume that the landowning classes had acquired...We assume that the landowning classes had acquired that land in line with the same principles of justice/fairness. The reality is ALL the landowners in punjab be they hindu, muslim, or sikh had been alotted/"granted" the land by the british. The victims were the poor and the peasantry of all communities, they got slaughtered on both sides. <br />We also assume the horrific violence had to do with religion, it was probably driven in equal measure by miscreants wanting to take over the land of the "other". Partitioning the province of Punjab was a profoundly unjust act, for which the blame lies with Patel and Nehru. Quad-e-Azam had agreed to the Cabinet Mission Plan in 1946. It would've been a total win-win for everyone. No partition, secularism in both places, but a safety net for respective minorities. Pakistan would have had undivided Punjab, and would have been a sub-nation of "India". Pakistani patriothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14018606898991878847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-50235523630219769492022-03-02T06:51:06.601+03:002022-03-02T06:51:06.601+03:00We assume that the landowning classes had acquired...We assume that the landowning classes had acquired that land in line with the same principles of justice/fairness. The reality is ALL the landowners in punjab be they hindu, muslim, or sikh had been alotted/"granted" the land by the british. The victims were the poor and the peasantry of all communities, they got slaughtered on both sides. <br />We also assume the horrific violence had to do with religion, it was probably driven in equal measure by miscreants wanting to take over the land of the "other". Partitioning the province of Punjab was a profoundly unjust act, for which the blame lies with Patel and Nehru. Quad-e-Azam had agreed to the Cabinet Mission Plan in 1946. It would've been a total win-win for everyone. No partition, secularism in both places, but a safety net for respective minorities. Pakistan would have had undivided Punjab, and would have been a sub-nation of "India". Pakistani patriothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14018606898991878847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-87847010462776526592021-12-04T02:05:54.647+03:002021-12-04T02:05:54.647+03:00It's a common misconception that Punjabis used...It's a common misconception that Punjabis used to be Hindu/Sikh before Muslims in Western Punjab. Brahminism never really took over Punjab. Before Islam, most Western Punjabis were Buddhists, or followed Punjabi tribal religions. Those surnames aren't caste names but tribal names. That's why you won't see a Tamil with the surnames of "Cheema", "Bajwa", "Virk", etc.Big Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17342589690096236469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-45362946987114536422021-09-09T01:31:22.149+03:002021-09-09T01:31:22.149+03:00Understanding only comes from analyzing the past. ...Understanding only comes from analyzing the past. We can and we should let the past go but we cannot and should not ignore it and its lessons. It can be your point of view but not necessarily the truth. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-65092462084238026682021-09-02T16:46:19.476+03:002021-09-02T16:46:19.476+03:00Well it’s not achieving it’s stated purpose. Quite...Well it’s not achieving it’s stated purpose. Quite the opposite. Understanding never comes from analyzing the past but letting it go. It’s the ego which causes division that always wants to rehash the past. It is never objectively interested in an academic pursuit. Sorry, but that’s the truth.Manuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489023779486067769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-57909718209711840272021-09-02T12:32:25.027+03:002021-09-02T12:32:25.027+03:00We cannot bury or forget the past, but sure we can...We cannot bury or forget the past, but sure we can learn from it. The purpose is to create understanding not division. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-8173875538635007192021-09-01T05:46:55.247+03:002021-09-01T05:46:55.247+03:00What a useless, division creating blog under the g...What a useless, division creating blog under the guise of “academic discussion”. Why not create a blog that promotes brotherhood and brings people together as humanity demands ?Manuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03489023779486067769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-17954843006697474072021-08-29T16:05:32.106+03:002021-08-29T16:05:32.106+03:00First of all Muslims were over 13% of India's ...First of all Muslims were over 13% of India's population in 1947 which dropped to 9% in 1951 (not 1947) and now they are 14.2% as of 2011. this means that even the percentage of Muslims dipped in india after partition due to population transfers (many indian like u falsefully believe that muslim population never decline din india) however the main epicenter of migration was punjab region and as indian punjab accounted for 10% of muslim population, their departure didnt impacted the overall muslim population the way departure of hindus and sikhs from Pakistani punjab did as pak punjab acocunted for 2/3 of pakistan's hindu and nearly entire sikh population. once again the rioting was focused more in punjab region. sindh balochistan etc remained peaceful overall with only sporadic events of violence just like UP, Bihar, Rajasthan etc. witnessed sporadic violence against Muslims due to which migration of minorities remained fracitonal from rest of south asia.<br />Hindu population of sindh in india is around 3.5 million of which native kutchis of kutch dist are 1 million meaning that actual migrants form sindh were 2.5 million while Pakistan's sindh currently has around 4.4 million hindus residing in it meaning that migration of sindhi hindus was fractional. Baluchistan states were 97% muslim and its still 97% muslims<br />Second the only time hindu population left Pakistan enmasse was between 1947-51 ie partition, in 1951, hindus were 1.6% and they are now 2.14% making Pakistan the only country where hindus have seen some increase if any in their percentage unlike Bangladesh and india where hindu percentage has declined since 1951.<br />Third, please i beg you, stop proving us that India is some heaven for muslims, since modi's ascend to power attacks on muslims by vigilantes, mob lunching has increased many folds, for sure Pakistan has no good minority track record but this doesn't give India as clean chit by default. evne before modi's ascent hindu muslim riots were not uncommon, muslims have historically been under represented in armed forces, govt jobs, their per capita income is the lower then SC OBCs, despite pak's per capita income being lower then india, Pakistani muslims are still doing much better then their indian muslim counterparts. <br /><br />Despite its bad minority track record, pakistan has reserved seats for them in national assembly and provincial assembly ro ensure their adequate representaiton. In UP , which has over 50 million muslims i guess dont even have a single muslim MP, The CM of UP publicly told his supporters to rape muslim dead women and kill 4 muslims for every 1 hindu and they they talk about sab ka saath sabka vikas, indian secularism is becoming a joke day by day. And before u bring kashniri pundits here, let me remind u that total casulties of kashmiri pundits even as per kashmiri pundit orgs like Kashmiri Pundit samriti is around 300 souls while during the same time number of kashmiri muslims killed is in tens of thousands with even more poeple missing. so even here muslims are bearing the worst. <br /><br />i have family and friends in india and they now openly acknowledge that situaiton has become bad for them, they use to criticize us for leaving india in 1947 but now eat their own words. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02119650198778328928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-31844103316107352422021-08-22T00:36:05.542+03:002021-08-22T00:36:05.542+03:00Thank you. Thank you. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-61777336492398412882021-08-22T00:35:45.362+03:002021-08-22T00:35:45.362+03:00I have given the figures of all the tehsils. You c...I have given the figures of all the tehsils. You can calculate the demographics of different regions according to your interest. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-77517713813872138052021-08-22T00:34:36.301+03:002021-08-22T00:34:36.301+03:00Definitely the Muslims majority portion went to Pa...Definitely the Muslims majority portion went to Pakistan and vice versa. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-45153837179021091612021-08-22T00:33:32.315+03:002021-08-22T00:33:32.315+03:00Punjab was divided on the basis of Muslim and non ...Punjab was divided on the basis of Muslim and non Muslim population, so there is no harm in discussing the fairness of partition. Anyway, I am not trying to revive tensions or claim territories of India. It is just an academic discussion. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-87355908099033301472021-08-22T00:29:47.726+03:002021-08-22T00:29:47.726+03:00I am surprised that how strong is the myth in Indi...I am surprised that how strong is the myth in India that Hindu majority districts were given to Pakistan. It is totally wrong. There was no Hindu majority district in Sindh even in 1947. Only three talukas out of 67 had Hindu majorities and none of them was contiguous to India. Check the following article. <br /><br />https://pakgeotagging.blogspot.com/search?q=sindhTariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-24860798521517921622021-08-22T00:25:11.729+03:002021-08-22T00:25:11.729+03:00The explanation is that the Sikhs were mostly livi...The explanation is that the Sikhs were mostly living in rural areas. That's why their percentage in cities and town was generally low. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-89224426232014268372021-08-22T00:19:39.191+03:002021-08-22T00:19:39.191+03:00No that is not the case at all. In Bengal it is tr...No that is not the case at all. In Bengal it is true that Khulna was given to East Pakistan but at the same time large areas of Muslim majority were given to India. As far Sindh is considered it is a myth that Hindu majority areas were given to India. Just three tehsils were Hindu majority tehsil and none was contiguous to India. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-388695297397138791.post-50927499313368347122021-08-22T00:13:13.140+03:002021-08-22T00:13:13.140+03:00Sorry I beg to differ. Sikhs did not have strong c...Sorry I beg to differ. Sikhs did not have strong case to demand Nankana Sahib or Lahore. Please check the geography and the demographics. Tariq Amirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09734075378028888452noreply@blogger.com